hates-sw hates software: Mail.app smtp server

• From: Ricardo SIGNES
  Date: 02:00 on 12 Jan 2008
  Subject: Mail.app smtp server
  
  
  OS X ships with a postfix install.  It's very easy to set it up to relay to a
  trusted SMTP server over SASL.  This is great for sending mail when offline; it
  just flushes when you're online.
  
  Mail.app will never allow you to use localhost for SMTP.  It will not allow
  127.x.y.z, localhost, or any name for the local box.  It *will* allow it for
  your IMAP server.
  
  What. The. Hell?
  
  
  

• From: Peter da Silva
  Date: 02:27 on 12 Jan 2008
  Subject: Re: Mail.app smtp server
  
  On 2008-01-11, at 20:00, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
  > Mail.app will never allow you to use localhost for SMTP.  It will  
  > not allow
  > 127.x.y.z, localhost, or any name for the local box.  It *will*  
  > allow it for
  > your IMAP server.
  
  Huh. I just went in and changed my SMTP server to localhost. It  
  seemed to accept it just fine. What symptoms are you seeing? Do I  
  have to set a proxy and try it to get it to complain?
  
  
  

• From: Ricardo SIGNES
  Date: 13:28 on 12 Jan 2008
  Subject: Re: Mail.app smtp server
  
  * Peter da Silva <peter@xxxxxxx.xxx> [2008-01-11T21:27:05]
  > On 2008-01-11, at 20:00, Ricardo SIGNES wrote:
  > >Mail.app will never allow you to use localhost for SMTP.  It will  not allow
  > >127.x.y.z, localhost, or any name for the local box.  It *will*  allow it
  > >for your IMAP server.
  > 
  > Huh. I just went in and changed my SMTP server to localhost. It  
  > seemed to accept it just fine. What symptoms are you seeing? Do I  
  > have to set a proxy and try it to get it to complain?
  
    1. Launch Mail.app
    2. Preferences (Cmd-,)
    3. Accounts
    4. Outgoing Mail Server -> Edit Server List
    5. (+) icon
    6. localhost / localhost
    7. select it (it shows "offline")
    8. send mail
    9. ...it works
  
  WHAT THE SHIT!?
  
  I spent at least an hour on this, a few months ago, and in desperation googled
  and found people reporting that problem on Google.  WTF WTF WTF.
  
  Well, fine.  I am going to say, "this was fixed by a recent bugfix" and write
  it off as me not being an idiot, because I will feel better.  Thanks for making
  me look again.
  
  
  

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